The Antichrist pt2

Another example that the organisation use is that of Matthew 18: 15-17,  again this quote is taken from the witness print of the good book (The new world translation of the holy scriptures) and it states: “Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.”  This is clear counsel with regard to “helping those who have committed sins in the congregation, it all seems very sensible and would be considered by many the correct way to go about things.

If you look a little more closely, I believe that it somewhat contradicts the witness interpretation of the previous scriptures.  In the latter part it states “let him be as a man of the nations and as a tax collector”, the scripture in 1Corinthians 5:9-10 as previously discussed states: “9 In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world.”  As far as I can gather from this it is then acceptable to have a degree contact with the sinners in the world, and then we are told by Jesus in Matthew 18 to let him be as a man of the world.  Yet again there is no mention of shunning them or even a distinction drawn between the two.  Somehow they have taken both of these scriptures and used them to justify the whole process of disfellowshipping.  The scripture at Matthew then states to treat them as tax collectors.  Anyone who has a basic understanding of the gospels will know that Jesus took meals with tax collectors, had the message have been to shun those types then surely Jesus would have had no contact with sinners at all.

So after a look at these three scriptures, albeit brief, I would be confident to say that it is fairly straight forward and obvious (to me anyway) that, nowhere does it have specific rules with regard to the treatment of those who have chosen by their own volition to leave that faith.  Neither does the bible advocate or specifically state that you should shun anyone who has taken that decision.  Yet despite all this and my mother being an intelligent person she chose to blindly follow the doctrines of the faith on this matter and lose out on potentially a lifetime of contact with her own flesh and blood!

Children reading Bible stories

Saul blinded by a light

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3 Responses to The Antichrist pt2

  1. Still great. Love the detail and depth!

  2. peter says:

    Hello, nice to find your blog.
    I recall 80’s Watchtower articles that discussed Matt. 18 always made a big issue of the part:
    “let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.”, and what that meant,
    launching into how repugnant tax collectors were to the Jews etc, etc, justifying/encouraging
    harsh, cold-shoulder for any disciplined in the congregation. The watchtower always reminding us ‘what Jesus really meant’.

    • davereekie says:

      It always amazes me looking back at how naive i was, i thought that there was only one interpretation of “god’s” word, but it is only when you move away from the congregation that you realise there are so many different legitimate ways of viewing it, then you inevitably ask the question can i believe it at all if its so open to scrutiny? cheers for reading and posting… dave

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